Lag in 3rd gear (manual)

[seaman]

I'm used to atmospheric engine and also supercharged engine. I forgot long time ago about lag, of turbocharged engine.

It's my first M3, and I am little bit disappointed about the lag, especially when I shift from 2nd to 3rd, in SPORT+ mode.

My F80 has the Competition package and is 6 speeds manual.

Somebody offers me the Burger Motorsport Stage 1 (plug and play). Is it a good product ? Can this tune make the lag less present ?

Does it worth the money ? Is it compatible with the 444 hp Competition package ?

Thanks for your precious answers !

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by seaman

It's my first M3, and I am little bit disappointed about the lag, especially when I shift from 2nd to 3rd, in SPORT+ mode.

Especially in Sport+, eh? Are you sure it is lag and not the stability control system cutting throttle?

Have you tried it (in a safe setting) with DSC disabled to verify you see the same behavior?

[stevehifi]

Yes make sure DSC isn't still on.. it's terrible and cuts power.

try MDM... or DSC off (carefully)

[bmrwrld]

Yes deasctivate DSC, you will fly off the road.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by bmrwrld

Yes deasctivate DSC, you will fly off the road.

Not everyone is inapt at driving a RWD car

[Gibson6594]

Hold down the DSC/MDM button for about 5 seconds to deactivate.

[Venere]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Not everyone is inapt at driving a RWD car

True. But...Not everyone is as talented as they think they are. Turning off the DSC is a good way to find out where you fit on the spectrum from inept to Senna-like.

[seaman]

Thanks for your answers folks ! On my 2011 GT500, Ford has done a DSC that even in full mode, will let the rear end be happy.....especially with 510 lbs/ft of torque !

I was expecting the same with the F80....

[cwhands]

Originally Posted by Venere

True. But...Not everyone is as talented as they think they are. Turning off the DSC is a good way to find out where you fit on the spectrum from inept to Senna-like.

the senna bomb! careful out there!

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by Railgun

For as much as people complain about lack of traction, they ARE inept at driving a car with loads of torque.

My point is that it is not an absolute. Some folks know how to drive and won't "fly off the road" with DSC off. But I agree, just based on the comments on this forum, there are many inapt drivers.

[avantix]

I drive with DSC off 100% of the time with rear tires that have 3/32 left and I don't fly off the road. I'm sideways sometimes though

[kerm1t]

Originally Posted by seaman

I'm used to atmospheric engine and also supercharged engine. I forgot long time ago about lag, of turbocharged engine.

It's my first M3, and I am little bit disappointed about the lag, especially when I shift from 2nd to 3rd, in SPORT+ mode.

My F80 has the Competition package and is 6 speeds manual.

Somebody offers me the Burger Motorsport Stage 1 (plug and play). Is it a good product ? Can this tune make the lag less present ?

Does it worth the money ? Is it compatible with the 444 hp Competition package ?

Thanks for your precious answers !

I think I get what you're saying. I have a 17 zcp, jb4, dp and although it did wake the car up a lot, I do feel the lag occasionally.

This happens mostly during a third gear roll. Second gear has no traction even with 90% tread.

The next time you do a pull, try starting at a lower rpm and very gradually give boost before you go full throttle. See if this works out.

[kerm1t]

Originally Posted by avantix

I drive with DSC off 100% of the time with rear tires that have 3/32 left and I don't fly off the road. I'm sideways sometimes though

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

My point is that it is not an absolute. Some folks know how to drive and won't "fly off the road" with DSC off. But I agree, just based on the comments on this forum, there are many inapt drivers.

Originally Posted by avantix

I drive with DSC off 100% of the time with rear tires that have 3/32 left and I don't fly off the road. I'm sideways sometimes though

Yea I agree. To lose control and fly off the road, you have to be flooring at an uneven surface or mashing the pedal off the line. If you're losing traction unintentionally, then yea there are many inadpt drivers lol