procede or jb3...please no arguments!!!!

[aleal86]

just wondering want to tune badly but don't know if i should get procede or jb3.. i really want dinan but crazy price. ill stick to these cheaper ones. can anyone just mention which one they would choose and why? just so i get an idea what i should get.... please no arguments...lol

[themyst]

They're both great tunes, 'nuff said, lets move it along now.

[My135]

I voted for JB3.

[Dangerlucas]

I would really suggest just searching around the threads on 1addicts, e90, and n54tech to fully inform yourself. In then end I think you will be more than happy with either one.

[BerkTechnology]

either one is a great option and we have had no issues with our JB3

[WhereItsAt]

I would vote you stear clea of a vendor site (n54tech). Both have similar peak numbers. But it really stops there. Search e90 and 1addicts. Compare what you want with what you can afford.

[TunedM2C]

JB3 for me. Try both since they both have a limited time money back guarantee.

[1lvr]

i would go JB3 cause its cheaper and I like cheaper... Some guys want the bells and whistles so they spend a little more and get the procede, it really just depends on what you are looking for.

[0002s]

Both run similar numbers, one is lower in cost and easier/cheaper to upgrade

Depends on which boost salesman you trust more.

[WhiteOne]

DME tune is $649. Reflash not piggy-back. Just a thought...

[rcracer_tx]

JB3 offers a full money back option when upgrading to a new model vs. Shiv leaves you with an outdated model or spend $900 for a new one that will be outdated in less than a year... You choose.

Terry's JB3 holds all 1/4 mile and HP records for customer and company vehicles on stock turbos, and has excellent customer service, Shiv has a reputation for abandoning customers as soon as the next platform comes out... You choose.

All of terry's products have been tested thoroughly before being released, and have worked as planned. Older versions of precede allowed the car to overboost like crazy... You choose.

[Yearofthe1]

What's wrong with this

http://www.cp-e.com/2148.html

[rcracer_tx]

Originally Posted by Yearofthe1

What's wrong with this

http://www.cp-e.com/2148.html

Its good if you want to spend a great deal of time and money Dyno tuning it, and retuning every time you get a new part, plus its too expensive from the start.... The jb3 makes more power, automatically adapts to new mods, and is a lot cheaper....

[infinitekidM2C]

tHE JB3 makes more power? do you have something to prove that. Also, you have to take into consideration the total amount of power being made throughout the power band and not simply peak numbers.

Even BMS's "comparison chart" states that JB3 on regular 91 makes 391, Proceede makes 390; on 93 JB3 makes 393, Procede makes 398...BMS sells the JB3

In the end they make about the same, i bought procede because it seemed to have more user control at the time...if u don't care about that buy JB3 because its cheaper.

[jeremyc74]

Originally Posted by Yearofthe1

What's wrong with this

http://www.cp-e.com/2148.html

The CP-E is more of a solution for someone who wants to tune their own car. Sure there are some canned tunes that come with it, but from what I've seen the others are better options for someone who wants to throw a part on the car and go.

That's not a dig on the CP-E stuff at all, because I'd eventually like to have one to play around with, but if you're not interested in doing your own tuning it's probably not worth the extra coin over the JB3.


Personally I've been running the JB3 for months. I like it very well and recieved great tech support when I was installing it (on Christmas Eve) . I don't have any experience with the Procede other than reading other members opinions (which seem to be positive) , so I have no comment on it.

[rcracer_tx]

Originally Posted by infinitekid2002

tHE JB3 makes more power? do you have something to prove that. Also, you have to take into consideration the total amount of power being made throughout the power band and not simply peak numbers.

Which tune, the Procede or the CP-E Standback?

How many CP-E standback systems have you seen make even 400whp?

All of the Dyno records and 1/4 mile records go to the JB3 as well... The wastegate algorithms that terry uses to get excellent low end response is a big part of his overwhelming success compared to Vishnu's piggy as well.

[Eyeman]

I don't have a tune yet. As of now if I did get one, I'd get a flash tune such as LET. Probably someone does these in the NY area. It also seems to makes sense for you since you basically said you want a less expensive Dinan type tune.

[jeremyc74]

Originally Posted by Eyeman

I don't have a tune yet. As of now if I did get one, I'd get a flash tune such as LET. Probably someone does these in the NY area. It also seems to makes sense for you since you basically said you want a less expensive Dinan type tune.

The problem I see with a flash is that you can't easily go back to stock without some help. For example, if my HPFP goes out, I'm going to pull the JB3 off wherever the car is at, and call for a tow truck to haul it to a dealer. I'm not out to defraud them, but we all know the pumps have problems, so I expect them to fix it and would like to get it done with as little hassel as possible.

If they start poking around in the ECU and realize you've got a flash, I'm not so sure it would go over very well. Some of the flashes claim to be invisable, but so did the SSTT, and it's not (ask me how I know!)

Just my .02 worth.

When it comes to selecting a tune, it's about weighing out the pros and cons and picking the one that fits what you need. From what I can tell, they're all pretty good options.

[infinitekidM2C]

Originally Posted by rcracer_tx

Which tune, the Procede or the CP-E Standback?

How many CP-E standback systems have you seen make even 400whp?

All of the Dyno records and 1/4 mile records go to the JB3 as well... The wastegate algorithms that terry uses to get excellent low end response is a big part of his overwhelming success compared to Vishnu's piggy as well.

I'm talking about procede. As for 1/4 miles, of course that's driver dependent...but im sure i can show some crazy 1/4 mile times with from procede..don't get me wrong jb3 is great...but i just dont think there's any power difference between jb3 and procede.

[rcracer_tx]

Originally Posted by infinitekid2002

I'm talking about procede. As for 1/4 miles, of course that's driver dependent...but im sure i can show some crazy 1/4 mile times with from procede..don't get me wrong jb3 is great...but i just dont think there's any power difference between jb3 and procede.

They do take different approaches when it comes to controlling Timing and other engine variables... Their is definitely differences in the tunes, and the last time I drove a procede car, it didn't seem to have the low end boost response the JB3 had, which was a while ago, so maybe the new maps on Procede have addressed this issue and caught up with terry, but Terry's 1.3 once again took it to a whole new level of response...

I do find it curious Shiv has not been able to muster up a dyno number similar to Terry's 459whp run... Shivs poor reputation on customer service, as well as major problems with his previous procede's poor boost control that led to some serious overboosting steered me away from his products.

[rcracer_tx]

For reference, Terry's comparison chart...

[rcracer_tx]

Originally Posted by infinitekid2002

I'm talking about procede. As for 1/4 miles, of course that's driver dependent...but im sure i can show some crazy 1/4 mile times with from procede..don't get me wrong jb3 is great...but i just dont think there's any power difference between jb3 and procede.

Shiv tried to compete with Terry for a long time on 1/4 mile times, but at the end gave up when he couldn't match terry's times.

I think its pretty safe to say that power down low made the difference as both tunes make similar peak power...