First Oil Change.... What is SCOPE CHECK?

tkbr0wn · 06-17-2009, 03:33 PM

So I took my 135 in today and had my first oil change. In the comments section on the paperwork, I see....

VEHICLE IS EQUIPPED WITH AN AFTERMARKET AIR INTAKE SYSTEM.

One of the line items above this comment is...

02BMZSCOPE SCOPE CHECK
PERFORM STANDARD SCOPE CHECK PER CBS INFORMATION
PERFORMED PER CBS INFORMATION
COMPLETED

So does anyone know what CBS INFORMATION is and if this is common to all oil changes or was this something they did because they were curious after seeing my intake.

zamm3k · 06-17-2009, 03:42 PM

I believe scope check is another term for performing a diagnostics scan. Don't quote me on this though

in any case, why didnt you just remove your intake before servicing the car?

My135 · 06-17-2009, 03:53 PM

Why would you remove an intake for a regular oil change service? Are you afraid they would deny the oil change service because your intake would cause the oil filter clogged up? Come on guys, please do not let the dealer drive us around. We need to let BMW knows, we are their customers. They are bound to serve us not the other way around. Customers is always right, right?

tkbr0wn · 06-17-2009, 04:51 PM

My SA is cool and I asked him about the intake before I bought or installed it. He said it was no big deal and I have had a few items taken care of since I had it installed. I had a leaking injector and now an oil change. This is just the first time I noticed it on the paperwork.

jkp1187 · 06-17-2009, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkbr0wn

My SA is cool and I asked him about the intake before I bought or installed it. He said it was no big deal and I have had a few items taken care of since I had it installed. I had a leaking injector and now an oil change. This is just the first time I noticed it on the paperwork.

Well, lesson learned: he isn't that cool.

My135 · 06-17-2009, 05:09 PM

This is cool, glad to hear some good BMW dealers out there. If they are truely car enthusiast like us, they should enjoy working on our cars and admire the mods. If we have more fun moding our cars, we will tell and encourage other enthusiasts to buy BMW. This will be a win-win situation for both.

Cheers.

shodanusmc · 06-17-2009, 05:26 PM

They may admire the mods as they reject your Warranty repair. THey are starting to really crack down, all Manufactures are. Mercedes, Porsche, and Chevy...they used to look the other way many times on the Vette. No more. You mod it, expect a fight if it is related....

miro2296 · 06-17-2009, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shodanusmc

They may admire the mods as they reject your Warranty repair. THey are starting to really crack down, all Manufactures are. Mercedes, Porsche, and Chevy...they used to look the other way many times on the Vette. No more. You mod it, expect a fight if it is related....

+1

zamm3k · 06-18-2009, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by My135

Why would you remove an intake for a regular oil change service? Are you afraid they would deny the oil change service because your intake would cause the oil filter clogged up? Come on guys, please do not let the dealer drive us around. We need to let BMW knows, we are their customers. They are bound to serve us not the other way around. Customers is always right, right?

Because unfortunately, some dealers aren't as cool about modding as others. And thats simply reality. You can try to make them serve you as you wish, that never means they will. If a dealer wants to get on ur nerves or on ur ass for modding your car, they will. Is it always fair? WELL, not really, but that's the way it goes. Yes we are BMW customers. We buy their cars, and we love them too, but if we intend to mod them, we're gonna have to deal with the consequences.

shawshank772 · 06-18-2009, 09:13 AM

That actually kind of SUCKS. Since they put AfterMarket Intake on that paper work I can almost gaurntee its in the system now. So even if you do take it off, they will know it was on there/you just took it off for service. It almost happened with my Jeep Wrangerl back in the day. I had a KN intake on it...well the intake pipe rubbed against the AC line causing a leak. That AC line ALONE was 300 bucks with out labor. LUCKILY, I had a REALLY cool SA. He said he DID NOT put it in the system that I had an Intake..If I had the original intake (which I did) put it back on and take it to another dealer, because since they knew what caused it they couldnt work on it. Long story short, put the old one on...went to another dealership...it got fixed.

creepy coupe · 06-18-2009, 09:15 AM

Sounds like they scoped the dipstick (if we had one) tube and looked into the sump.

But then again they could have scoped anywhere.

My135 · 06-18-2009, 09:23 AM

I agreed, if the mods causing problem, I will pay for the repair and I won't lie about it; but if they deny my HPFP failure, I will definitely challenge them on this.

new2the3 · 06-18-2009, 12:14 PM

I have seen scope check plenty of times when I brought my stock 330i in for an oil change. It is just a standard diagnostic they run.

fshowcars · 06-18-2009, 12:19 PM

Tomorrow is my big day. I pulled the JB3 just to send the 1.22 back to terry for an update. The car is going in for it's first oil change and state inspection... I haven't driven the car in stock form for months. I am going to see if anything pops up and will report back my service report. I opted to hang around and meet the tech just to BS. So we'll see how it goes.

06-17-2009, 03:33 PM	#1
tkbr0wn Major 72 Rep 1,239 Posts Drives: 2015 Cayman S Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Atlanta iTrader: (0)	First Oil Change.... What is SCOPE CHECK? So I took my 135 in today and had my first oil change. In the comments section on the paperwork, I see.... VEHICLE IS EQUIPPED WITH AN AFTERMARKET AIR INTAKE SYSTEM. One of the line items above this comment is... 02BMZSCOPE SCOPE CHECK PERFORM STANDARD SCOPE CHECK PER CBS INFORMATION PERFORMED PER CBS INFORMATION COMPLETED So does anyone know what CBS INFORMATION is and if this is common to all oil changes or was this something they did because they were curious after seeing my intake. __________________ ● 2015 Cayman S (Current), 2011 1M BSM #297 (Sold), 2008 135i (Sold) ●
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zamm3k Bla! 82 Rep 909 Posts Drives: F82 M4 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Miami, FL iTrader: (4)	I believe scope check is another term for performing a diagnostics scan. Don't quote me on this though in any case, why didnt you just remove your intake before servicing the car? __________________ ......................::.........................
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My135 Lieutenant Colonel 85 Rep 1,609 Posts Drives: Join Date: Mar 2008 iTrader: (0)	Why would you remove an intake for a regular oil change service? Are you afraid they would deny the oil change service because your intake would cause the oil filter clogged up? Come on guys, please do not let the dealer drive us around. We need to let BMW knows, we are their customers. They are bound to serve us not the other way around. Customers is always right, right? __________________ 7/08 135 Coupe, Crimson Red, 6 SP, Sport, Taupe Lette/Aluminum. Performance Mods: JB4 on Map 5, BMS DP Fix V3, Injen polished intake, AR Catless DP, Maddad resonated mid-pipes, aFe exhaust polished tips, ST Suspension Coil Over and Hotchkis front sway bar. Others: BMS OCC, BT Scanner, Mud Flap. Next Mods: AA Front Strut Brace.
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tkbr0wn Major 72 Rep 1,239 Posts Drives: 2015 Cayman S Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Atlanta iTrader: (0)	My SA is cool and I asked him about the intake before I bought or installed it. He said it was no big deal and I have had a few items taken care of since I had it installed. I had a leaking injector and now an oil change. This is just the first time I noticed it on the paperwork. __________________ ● 2015 Cayman S (Current), 2011 1M BSM #297 (Sold), 2008 135i (Sold) ●
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06-17-2009, 05:09 PM	#6
My135 Lieutenant Colonel 85 Rep 1,609 Posts Drives: Join Date: Mar 2008 iTrader: (0)	This is cool, glad to hear some good BMW dealers out there. If they are truely car enthusiast like us, they should enjoy working on our cars and admire the mods. If we have more fun moding our cars, we will tell and encourage other enthusiasts to buy BMW. This will be a win-win situation for both. Cheers. __________________ 7/08 135 Coupe, Crimson Red, 6 SP, Sport, Taupe Lette/Aluminum. Performance Mods: JB4 on Map 5, BMS DP Fix V3, Injen polished intake, AR Catless DP, Maddad resonated mid-pipes, aFe exhaust polished tips, ST Suspension Coil Over and Hotchkis front sway bar. Others: BMS OCC, BT Scanner, Mud Flap. Next Mods: AA Front Strut Brace.
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06-17-2009, 05:26 PM	#7
shodanusmc Captain 21 Rep 774 Posts Drives: 09 135 Vert Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Chicago burb iTrader: (0)	They may admire the mods as they reject your Warranty repair. THey are starting to really crack down, all Manufactures are. Mercedes, Porsche, and Chevy...they used to look the other way many times on the Vette. No more. You mod it, expect a fight if it is related....
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06-18-2009, 09:13 AM	#10
shawshank772 Major 120 Rep 1,159 Posts Drives: 08 135i and 16 M3 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chicago iTrader: (1)	That actually kind of SUCKS. Since they put AfterMarket Intake on that paper work I can almost gaurntee its in the system now. So even if you do take it off, they will know it was on there/you just took it off for service. It almost happened with my Jeep Wrangerl back in the day. I had a KN intake on it...well the intake pipe rubbed against the AC line causing a leak. That AC line ALONE was 300 bucks with out labor. LUCKILY, I had a REALLY cool SA. He said he DID NOT put it in the system that I had an Intake..If I had the original intake (which I did) put it back on and take it to another dealer, because since they knew what caused it they couldnt work on it. Long story short, put the old one on...went to another dealership...it got fixed.
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creepy coupe Lieutenant General 1867 Rep 13,043 Posts Drives: BMW M340I G20 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: UK iTrader: (2) Garage List 2015 BMW 435d [0.00] 2009 335i [0.00]	Sounds like they scoped the dipstick (if we had one) tube and looked into the sump. But then again they could have scoped anywhere.
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06-18-2009, 09:23 AM	#12
My135 Lieutenant Colonel 85 Rep 1,609 Posts Drives: Join Date: Mar 2008 iTrader: (0)	I agreed, if the mods causing problem, I will pay for the repair and I won't lie about it; but if they deny my HPFP failure, I will definitely challenge them on this. __________________ 7/08 135 Coupe, Crimson Red, 6 SP, Sport, Taupe Lette/Aluminum. Performance Mods: JB4 on Map 5, BMS DP Fix V3, Injen polished intake, AR Catless DP, Maddad resonated mid-pipes, aFe exhaust polished tips, ST Suspension Coil Over and Hotchkis front sway bar. Others: BMS OCC, BT Scanner, Mud Flap. Next Mods: AA Front Strut Brace.
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new2the3 Colonel 380 Rep 2,067 Posts Drives: 2020 X3M Competition Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: San Diego iTrader: (0)	I have seen scope check plenty of times when I brought my stock 330i in for an oil change. It is just a standard diagnostic they run. __________________ 2020 X3MC 2009 135i: AW/CR Aluminum Trim, 6 speed, M-Sport, Premium, Heated Seats, Ipod, BMW Performance Pedals, BMW Performance SSK, BMW Performance Exhaust, BMW Performance Grills E93 M3 FSB
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fshowcars Getting Pulled Over 2 Rep 185 Posts Drives: Join Date: Apr 2008 iTrader: (0)	Tomorrow is my big day. I pulled the JB3 just to send the 1.22 back to terry for an update. The car is going in for it's first oil change and state inspection... I haven't driven the car in stock form for months. I am going to see if anything pops up and will report back my service report. I opted to hang around and meet the tech just to BS. So we'll see how it goes.
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