Any concrete info on future M3 engines?

Lovegreatcars · 07-20-2011, 07:44 AM

Seems I read here last week we should get some confirmation on the final engine for the 201? M3 this week. Am I dreaming?

I'm probably going to order another M3 this fall anyway, just wondering? Thanks.

SamS · 07-20-2011, 07:56 AM

No way we will hear about the new engine for the F32 M3 this week. It will be a variation on the upcoming X3M engine, a turbo 6cyl.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=536471

amirz1000 · 07-20-2011, 08:39 AM

3.3 L V6 triple turbo. It will be the 4.4L that is going into the F10 M5 with 2 cylinders chopped off basically.

Grail05 · 07-20-2011, 08:44 AM

positiveions · 07-20-2011, 10:10 AM

speculations; nothing is concrete.
ANd no, BMW will not use a V6; this theory was thought of, and never made it into production.

mkoesel · 07-20-2011, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M3crazy

Am I dreaming?

Yes.

Quote:

I'm probably going to order another M3 this fall anyway, just wondering? Thanks.

Even if it were confirmed that the F32 M3 will get a 500hp TT V8, you'd be foolish to put off purchasing until its release. It won't be here for more than three years. In that time you could have leased and driven an E9x M3, and been ready to upgrade.

Quote:

Originally Posted by amirz1000

3.3 L V6 triple turbo. It will be the 4.4L that is going into the F10 M5 with 2 cylinders chopped off basically.

That's just one theory. It happens to be the least likey of the two prevailing possibilities (I6 3.0-3.2L or V6 3.3L ), while also being the one most often erroneously suggested by media outlets as having been confirmed by BMW.

BMW269 · 07-20-2011, 02:02 PM

Tipple-Turbo 3.3l V6.

Nissan Skyline > Nissan GT-R
I6 > V6

Toyota Supra > Toyota Supra II (if still comes)
I6 > V6

Honda NSX > Honda HSC (if still comes)
V8 > V6

Audi S5 2010 > Audi S5 2012
V8 > V6

///Matthew · 07-20-2011, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Levi

Tipple-Turbo 3.3l V6.

Nissan Skyline > Nissan GT-R
I6 > V6

Toyota Supra > Toyota Supra II (if still comes)
I6 > V6

Honda NSX > Honda HSC (if still comes)
V8 > V6

Audi S5 2010 > Audi S5 2012
V8 > V6

The NSX had a V6.

chewietobbacca · 07-20-2011, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ///Matthew

The NSX had a V6.

One way ahead of its time too

FVM3 · 07-20-2011, 02:54 PM

Triple turbo

Lovegreatcars · 07-20-2011, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkoesel

Yes.

Even if it were confirmed that the F32 M3 will get a 500hp TT V8, you'd be foolish to put off purchasing until its release. It won't be here for more than three years. In that time you could have leased and driven an E9x M3, and been ready to upgrade.

That's just one theory. It happens to be the least likey of the two prevailing possibilities (I6 3.0-3.2L or V6 3.3L ), while also being the one most often erroneously suggested by media outlets as having been confirmed by BMW.

I wasn't going to wait for the next edition. The choice would only be whether it's going to be an M3 or a 335is. I've had 4 M3's now, sold my '09 last year and have been missing a M for the past year.

My wife drives a 135i convertible, and I get in once in awhile and play around. But it's not an M3.

ES_TRADER · 07-20-2011, 03:13 PM

price will be > than current gen..regardless of specs

BMW269 · 07-20-2011, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ///Matthew

The NSX had a V6.

My bad. Yes, NSX had V6. I mixed with the HSV.

goldminer · 07-20-2011, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amirz1000

3.3 L V6 triple turbo. It will be the 4.4L that is going into the F10 M5 with 2 cylinders chopped off basically.

That would make it a 90 degree V6 with offset crank pins to allow for even firing. That's been tried by a few North American manufactures and largely abandoned.

I can't see BMW going for something that inelegant. V6 engines should really be 60 degrees but then it couldn't be made on the same machining equipment..

mkoesel · 07-20-2011, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M3crazy

I wasn't going to wait for the next edition. The choice would only be whether it's going to be an M3 or a 335is. I've had 4 M3's now, sold my '09 last year and have been missing a M for the past year.

Ok, cool. I guess I still don't see how that's a factor, but that's not important right now. Regardless of whether the next one has a 1.6L I4 hybrid, a 600hp V12 turbo, or something in between, you should pick the E92 M3 today and skip the 335is.

BMW269 · 07-22-2011, 09:41 AM

V6 90° can be better than V6 60°, if done properly.

SUB-ZERO · 07-22-2011, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amirz1000

3.3 L V6 triple turbo. It will be the 4.4L that is going into the F10 M5 with 2 cylinders chopped off basically.

This seems to be the leading story so far.

Still hoping for a variation of the marvelous S65 but hopes are fading.

-SZ

gblansten · 07-28-2011, 09:46 PM

I don't see concrete being used by BMW but I'm no expert on material science.

Memphis1 · 07-29-2011, 02:27 PM

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/au..._car_boom.html

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