2012 C&D Lightning Lap

[BMW M Power Mexico]

Just got this on the iPad. Thought I´d share and discuss.

Vette ZR1 2:50.7
GT-R (2012) 2:53.2
Panamera Turbo S 3:00.7
Boss 302 Laguna Seca 3:02.8 Impressive bang for the buck. Excellent.
Cayman R 3:03.9
TT-RS 3:04.8 Beat the 1M this time.
MB CLS63 AMG Coupe 3:04.9 Impressive for such a huge beast.
Evora S 3:05.3
MB C63 AMG Coupe 3:06.3 Still behind the M3.
1M 3:06.6 About where it should fall on a power track.
Challenger SRT-8 392 3:09.4
Charger SRT-8 3:10.1
Z4 sDrive 35is 3:10.4
X5M 3:11.1 Crazy for an SUV.
335is 3:13.8
Golf R 3:14.0
Jeep GC SRT8 3:17.4
MINI Cooper JCW Coupe 3:18.4
Honda Civic Si 3:24.1
Jetta GLI 3:27.3 Disappointing.

[b33g33]

Where would a Cayenne Turbo fall on this? There is a crazy argument going on on Jalopnik where some dude with a Cayenne Turbo is saying he can outrun a WRX STi on a track.

[BMW M Power Mexico]

Originally Posted by b33g33

Where would a Cayenne Turbo fall on this? There is a crazy argument going on on Jalopnik where some dude with a Cayenne Turbo is saying he can outrun a WRX STi on a track.

I think on a power biased track, it´s likely the Cayenne will take the STi. Especially the new one, I think it is a bit faster than the X5M above.

The X5M is faster than the STi on this track.

[HERR FSTIR]

Impressed the TT-RS out ran the 1M by about 2 sec given parasitic losses of AWD on a fast track. Cayman R is also very impressive besting the 1M by 2.7 sec. The ZR1 is simply another league.

[MrRoboto]

The 1M is a hair behind the C63 coupe. Considering the grunt the Merc has, this is impressive. Surprised at the 335is times compared to the 1M.

[mbintx]

335is in a dead heat with the Golf R? Kinda surprised by that weak showing...

[BMW86]

Wow, the BOSS is impressive!!

[MrRoboto]

What track was this?

[BMW M Power Mexico]

Originally Posted by MrRoboto

What track was this?

VIR. Virginia.

[mPlasticDesign]

Originally Posted by BMW86

Wow, the BOSS is impressive!!

The BOSS LS did great but keep in mind the LS had to lose the back seats, add a fully adjustable track suspension and most important, run on R compound tires. The tires alone are worth 1 sec/min. I am far more impressed with the 1M time. Give me those tires, JUST the tires and it's right up there with the BOSS302! Why do you think so many Ring times have been in question because of tires alone, it's a huge factor but an easy one to equalize between cars. It has been discussed in this ealier thread(titled: Boss302RIPS 1M). http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=631944

I am just amazed how many 135 guys are so excited by the BossLS besting the 1M by 3 seconds on VIR? There strong dislike of the 1M has totally clouded their judgement.

Like I said in that thread:

Originally Posted by Mr.Metak2you

.....I think it speaks volumes to the 1M suspension straight from the factory to hang with cars with way more power or that are tuned specifically for track......

[BMW M Power Mexico]

+1 on the BOSS comments by Mr.Metak. Couldn´t agree more.

[PunjabiM3]

Originally Posted by mbintx

335is in a dead heat with the Golf R? Kinda surprised by that weak showing...

I'm not surprised. 335is has no LSD, weighs more. The Golf R is AWD and has a center and/or rear limited slip I believe. Have you driven a Golf btw? I have a TDI which has I believe the same sport suspension as the GTI and the car has go-kart like handling.