going to get a protune what should i expect?

[Zombie1]

i plan on doing a base line dyno, then install a chargepipe with a FMIC and drop in filter then dyno again on cobbs stage 1+ aggresive then get the protune. how much HP more will a protune make vs cobbs stage 1+ aggresive map? 15whp?

[One///Em]

I went from 255kW on Cobb S1+ aggressive, to 290kW with PTF.

It is more the smoothness in delivery a protune yields that I noticed.

I later got PTF to do a second map to use as a daily driver with a more linear torque curve. It still yields 275kW.

[fcman]

Originally Posted by One///Em

I went from 255kW on Cobb S1+ aggressive, to 290kW with PTF.

It is more the smoothness in delivery a protune yields that I noticed.

I later got PTF to do a second map to use as a daily driver with a more linear torque curve. It still yields 275kW.

Wow that's a hell of a gain. I will definitely give them a call when I get my Cobb AP

[bmw0bsession]

Downpipes will give you a significant gain as well.

[Zombie1]

Originally Posted by bmw0bsession

Downpipes will give you a significant gain as well.

i do really want to go catless but the hassle of having to pass emissions yearly just sucks.

[twin fed]

Matt, where do you plan on going for the protune?

[Zombie1]

Originally Posted by twin fed

Matt, where do you plan on going for the protune?

only place that i know of is VTR in babylon thats a cobb protuner, im open to suggestions.

[One///Em]

Originally Posted by fcman

Wow that's a hell of a gain. I will definitely give them a call when I get my Cobb AP

Great guys at PTF http://www.protuningfreaks.com/tuning.html

[Zombie1]

so whats the ballpark range for whop figures on an N54 with stock down pipes 360-380whp? car will have Cobb FMIC, ER charge pipe,and a Cobb drop in filter.

[Allen@MOTIV]

Originally Posted by Zombie1

i plan on doing a base line dyno, then install a chargepipe with a FMIC and drop in filter then dyno again on cobbs stage 1+ aggresive then get the protune. how much HP more will a protune make vs cobbs stage 1+ aggresive map? 15whp?

Typically, we see 15whp-30whp gains over OTS maps. The important things is that your tuner is familiar with and knows the N54. These can be very tricky engines to get dialed in properly from a driveability stand point.

Originally Posted by One///Em

Great guys at PTF http://www.protuningfreaks.com/tuning.html

Thanks for the love

[twin fed]

Originally Posted by Zombie1

only place that i know of is VTR in babylon thats a cobb protuner, im open to suggestions.

Check out MR Performance in Westbury. Ryan is the owner, I have done some body work on his GTR and I was talking to them about their COBB Pro Tunes and they seem to have lots of experience with them. I may see them soon, maybe we can get a deal.

http://www.mrpbuilt.com/

Their site is not the best

[Zombie1]

Originally Posted by twin fed

Check out MR Performance in Westbury. Ryan is the owner, I have done some body work on his GTR and I was talking to them about their COBB Pro Tunes and they seem to have lots of experience with them. I may see them soon, maybe we can get a deal.

http://www.mrpbuilt.com/

Their site is not the best

ill check them out thanks, and yeah if you are keeping your car be great to see if we can get a couple more members together have 1addicts protune/dyno day.

[twin fed]

Originally Posted by Zombie1

ill check them out thanks, and yeah if you are keeping your car be great to see if we can get a couple more members together have 1addicts protune/dyno day.

Yeah it does not seem to be moving, so for now I am keeping it, but I'm down for a pro tune/dyno day

[Zombie1]

Im almost certain i wont be installing my dps, would i t be better for me to run a JB4 g5 with some e85 on a backend flash for more power in stead of getting protuned on pump gas?

[vivanapoli806]

I wasn't going to install dps either but I was talking with local shop owner and he only charges $160 to install down pipes. I might just get them and swap in stock ones when I have to take emissions. U can do that as well

[Zombie1]

Originally Posted by vivanapoli806

I wasn't going to install dps either but I was talking with local shop owner and he only charges $160 to install down pipes. I might just get them and swap in stock ones when I have to take emissions. U can do that as well

yeah im going to get qoute if its only 160 i can live with that

[foghat]

Originally Posted by Zombie1

yeah im going to get qoute if its only 160 i can live with that

After the initial install, you are going to have to double that number. $160 put the stock dp back on and then $160 after the test to put the catless dp back on.

How often do you have to do these tests?

Also, be aware that just because a shop is a Cobb pro tuner, that does not necessarily mean they do BMW. They need to purchase different software from Cobb to do BMW vs., say, subaru.

[Zombie1]

Originally Posted by foghat

After the initial install, you are going to have to double that number. $160 put the stock dp back on and then $160 after the test to put the catless dp back on.

How often do you have to do these tests?

Also, be aware that just because a shop is a Cobb pro tuner, that does not necessarily mean they do BMW. They need to purchase different software from Cobb to do BMW vs., say, subaru.

yes i relieze that sir, we have to do them once a year in new york. The shop is a bmw cobb pro tuner not many on long island.

[foghat]

$320 a year, plus the hassle of having to do two swaps a year. Not sure what I'd do in that situation. Glad I don't have to worry about it.

[Cozy]

My experience with DP's is that they net more torque with a tune and sustain power longer due to reduced engine heat and increased flow allowing a more aggressive tune; not necessarily make more HP. Me and my friend both have Pro-Tunes, one car is Stg 1+ and the other is Stage 2+. On the dyno both cars make the same HP, Stg 2+ has more torque and has never had an issue doing multiple pulls but that's it.

My car, the Stg 2+ car is currently undergoing PTF treatment by Jake who has been great but it's a spikey little bugger and as a result is experiencing WOT boost cut. I'm keen to run the car again when this has been sorted out.

For the record, both cars only gained like 6whp vs OTS; I'm hoping there's more there.

[Turbmando]

I was planning on going with PTF this spring, but 6whp is not impressive....

[Cozy]

Yeah, not too excited about the numbers really. We run on Dyno Dynamics so I'm aware that peak numbers are down vs Dynojet but I would still expect a 15-30whp delta between OTS and ProTune between the runs on the same dyno.

My friend ran the Pro-Tune first and then switched to the OTS right after and only gained like 6whp. I'm not sure what's up as both cars are fresh, cared fur and we have great fuel (94oct) over here.

What I can say is that both cars are incredibly drivable and all the OTS flat spots are gone. I love how it drives and can't recommend PTF enough but I really hope there's more power in there somewhere.

Loads of cars ran on the same day and most stock cars made the figures the manufacturer claimed (within a couple of HP), a stock 1M made 20bhp over stock and a stock N55 135i with just a FMIC made 20bhp over stock so the potential on the dyno was there to see some good gains.